39 thoughts on “CNET On Cars – Car Tech 101: Another kind of electric car: Hydrogen fuel cell

  • October 15, 2013 at 12:18
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    Hydrogen cars are not feasible. If you don't mind having a semi trailer following you with a huge tank holding that Hydrogen for you to refill your little car. Even in California Hydrogen buses were not cost worthy, they found MORE hydrogen went UP IN THE AIR while they were FUELING the bus! Stick with Natural Gas like we have up here in Seattle. The cost of making Hydrogen is another problem in it's own.

  • October 15, 2013 at 12:19
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    Brian haven't you seen some of those "higher priced" cars, when they pull away from a stop light they already have WATER dripping out of the exhaust. And NEW catalytic convertors made by NASA years ago WORK INSTANTLY and don't need to warm up to KEEP THE AIR CLEAN. I think you need to educate yourself some more.

  • October 15, 2013 at 12:21
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    It's like Natural Gas, Obama signed a bill saying ONLY corn can be used to make clean fuels. You can make clean Natural Gas from quite a few sources. In Brazil they use sugar cane to make ethanol but in the USA let's keep the corn farmers getting richer. Surprised to hear that quite a LOT of farmers in the USA are millionaires! Thanks to those new laws which drove our food prices up.

  • October 15, 2013 at 12:24
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    If you wait for big OEM car companies to make a car that's electric get more mileage your waiting forever. Check out EVTV and small shops who have been converting NORMAL cars to electric for the last 20 years and get HUGE mileage compared to these wacky leaf's which don't even use standard charger plugs. Everyone should adopt the Tesla plugs and you'd charge that thing in no time. The batteries you get in a leaf are OLD tech the new batteries are WAY beyond them.

  • October 15, 2013 at 12:25
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    You can make Natural Gas from a lot of sources not just the stuff coming out of the ground and it's not that expensive to make it either. Oh but your buddy Obama passed a law saying in the USA ethanol can ONLY BE MADE FROM CORN so you can't use sugarcane like Brazil or anything else which wouldn't impact on our food supply or food prices.

  • October 15, 2013 at 12:26
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    Go to a local shipping yard and those trucks that pull the containers around have been using CNG for years and years. Even Honda has a Civic that runs on natural gas. Sad thing is, unless you special order it, most of those fancy technologies only get sold to customers in California.

  • October 15, 2013 at 12:27
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    Hyundai has had a Hydrogen car TESTING since the early 1990s if it was such a great thing we'd already see them. The cost to make hydrogen is ridiculous. Try Natural gas, Semi's are now being converted to run on Natural Gas.

  • October 15, 2013 at 12:28
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    Yeah, it's expensive to produce much less store safely. But these other idiots keep pushing it without knowing how expensive it is to make hydrogen. There like Apple fan boys, tell them it's great without telling them how much it cost to make the stuff, there all over it.

  • October 15, 2013 at 12:30
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    And thanks to our wonderful Prez up here in the USA, anyone making ethanol out of sugar cane, soybeans, etc, will have to sell all that ethanol to South America and Europe. His law says "only corn can be used in the USA to make ethanol" basically he's kissing the ass of rich farmers to make more corn and not grow other crops because corn is like GOLD for farmers now days. Diesel used to be way cheaper then gas now its way more then gas, wierd huh.

  • October 15, 2013 at 22:29
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    Nice I look forward to those cars and many like it!

  • October 15, 2013 at 23:17
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    Solar panels do create "upstream" pollution because of the process to make them.

  • October 16, 2013 at 12:27
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    Excuses excuses… English isn't my first language either but I got no problem differentiating "your" and "you're".

    You think my comment is ignorant and pathetic? Tell me, what else does the Middle East produce apart from crude oil? And once the oil dried up or hydrogen replaces it, what are they gonna do?

  • October 18, 2013 at 16:09
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    Oh I know some part of the Middle east, like United Arab Emirates are doing just fine.

    Put it this way, when hydrogen becomes standard and only motorsports and airplanes need crude oil, the western countries backing up your so called puppet leaders will leave middle east alone and y'all can have your tribal wars all you like with no interruption.

    Just stop seeking asylum in western countries then try to turn it into another middle east.

  • October 25, 2013 at 02:54
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    the thing is that there are patents for extremely powerful batteries that are much more cheap and feasable that hydrogen thechnology, purely electric cars (battery powered) are doable as mainstream products but all the patents involved in building them are instantly bought by oil companies so that they can never be used commercially.

  • October 25, 2013 at 02:59
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    so it's better to produce electricity then use it to produce hydrogen and then later use that hydrogen to produce electricity (every transformation of energy has some losses along the way)?? why not use that electricity directly to power your car? since battery technology evolved to the point where storing that energy and recharging time (definetly not hours anymore) is not an impediment anymore.

  • October 28, 2013 at 00:13
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    but that technology is not hidden or something extraordinary. and the fact that they buy those patents is known and verificable. electric cars have very long history, as long as those that run on fossil fuel. it's just that back then, electricity was produce exclusively by burning fossil fuel and tech behind batteries was primitive (not that much autonomy) so it was natural that internal combustion engines to emerge victorious into the mainstream. but now, it's not the case, tech is different.

  • October 28, 2013 at 00:29
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    just google "battery patents held by oil companies". nowdays electric cars use old tech batteries lead acid (just like the small ones found on every car but bigger) or lithium batteries. they are not that good and recharge lasts alot. NiMH battery patents is oqned by chevron. these batteries have a much longer life, support much more reharges, can be recharged faster and is stronger allowing a much powerful engine. yet, they can't be used in vehicle industry.

  • November 1, 2013 at 19:06
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    What happens if this car crashes? Can the hydrogen tank explode?

  • November 23, 2013 at 18:41
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    Agree with andrei87x, why would you use solar power to create hydrogen to create electricity, when you just could use solar to create electricity. Gotta agree with Musk, sounds like BS. Seems like a way gas companies could keep infrastructure by moving to an unnecessary fuel source….of course they have patents. Put solar panels on a charging station, on your roof of your car or your house and done. Why would you create a middle man for no reason? Power grab.

  • December 7, 2013 at 15:50
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    Hydrogen fuel and batteries or hydrogen verses batteries, I hate seeing a dismissive articles on hydrogen fuel.  If we combine batteries and hydrogen hybrid we can drop the engine.  Like with an engine hybrid the batteries allow us to plug in anywhere for a partial charge to reach alternate fuels like hydrogen and natural gas.  That means the alternate fuel infrastructure is completely solvable because the batteries fill the gap.  Next, batteries lose energy for long term storage making range for the rare outing of more than 30 mile commute less cost effective.  However, hydrogen fuel even at a premium provides that safety net without the large redundant charging times and heavy dead weight of extra batteries.  Keep in mind the majority of the time, the commute, batteries only cost pennies per mile.  At the same time, it allows for an all electric vehicle with power and performance.  Mobile billing is also needed to charge the car and not the home owner, work place, or store front.

  • January 10, 2014 at 04:18
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    These are better than battery because of the refuling, no 10 hr wait

  • January 23, 2014 at 10:39
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    Is that still accurate that it will only last 100K miles? Where can I find more info on this? Thanks

  • January 30, 2014 at 20:31
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    Total scam to keep you buying hydrogen at their stations!  Google "Project Nsearch" and watch video at top of page for a Corvette that runs on hydrogen that man makes at home using solar!   Spread this information everywhere if you want your freedom! 🙂

  • March 5, 2014 at 00:02
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    Goverment and oil billioners generate billion of dollar from petrol and diesel….why would there promote hydrogen cars or electir cars….

  • March 14, 2014 at 19:56
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    Tesla model S, which can use solar powered charging stations for FREE energy or Hydrogen, which has to be processed and pressurised, causing manufactures to charge for the supply…………hmmmmm FREE….pay……….FREE…….pay! I know which i prefer!

  • March 16, 2014 at 23:42
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    What about Hydrogen combustible BMW has one?

  • April 18, 2014 at 01:50
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    I like this idea better than nuclear power because fisson powered car would be like a litle chynoble on wheels

  • May 10, 2014 at 05:01
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    Something to consider is that the comment about producing batteries/electricity/hydrogen may have coal power for its production. However.
    Refining crude to gasoline takes far more electricity!!

  • May 23, 2014 at 09:36
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    A little deceptive I think– the cooling towers that are displayed outputting into the environment are pictured as sources of pollution– but they emit water vapor! The same thing emitted by this hydrogen car! If that's not lies and propaganda intended to deceive the public, I donno what is

  • May 27, 2014 at 15:47
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    It takes 3 times as much electricity to turn water into hydrogen and drive 1 mile than it does to drive a battery electric car the same distance. Fact.

    Unless this, the extortionate expense of the fuel cells and the lack of $1million-a-piece fueling stations (vs the abundant infrastructure of plug sockets in your house) changes, Hydrogen cars will always remain a pipe dream.

    Sadly, it's the pipe dream that the oil companies are desperate to push because while you're chasing it, you're buying petrol cars,…

    Battery is the near future and, by the time hydrogen is ready, battery tech will be far, far cheaper. A waste of time.

  • October 17, 2014 at 21:40
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    Lies, lies, mistakes, lies. BatteryEV pollute less than Hydrogen EV. BatteryEV does not take hours to recharge, maximum half an hour (do NOT compare home charger to Hydrogen station – not fair). Hydrogen EV-s can not be refilled nowhere else than only specific places on earth. Even gasoline can be refilled at home if needed, not to mention Battery EV-s. In cold weather Hydrogen EV-s have even more problems than BatteryEV-s (freezing byproduct – water).

  • June 20, 2015 at 18:21
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    with the sea level rising up, dont you think it'll help to use some of it so that sinking towns/islands/countries/places will surface again. hydrogen fuel helps us and helps the environment in return.

  • July 12, 2015 at 03:37
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    Hydrogen Fuel Cell Technology  

    Officially "joining the discussion" to learn more about this creative technology. Definitely here to learn as much as I can about this topic.

  • February 10, 2016 at 02:17
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    Hydrogen is BOUND in everything around us. It's BOUND in water, it's BOUND in plants, and it's BOUND in every hydrocarbon around us
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    ding ding ding. That's why hydrogen is an energy SINK not a source. It takes MORE energy to break those bonds, then we ever get back from its use
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